tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5077189869336195827.post688195659360506287..comments2023-09-25T04:46:47.467-04:00Comments on The expected result was 42. Now what was the test?: Is testing a manufacturing process or a scientific approach?John Stevensonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05696297547425084869noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5077189869336195827.post-19244650193588057872012-08-26T14:00:17.275-04:002012-08-26T14:00:17.275-04:00Superb write up, John!
Let meadd my own point &qu...Superb write up, John!<br /><br />Let meadd my own point "Innovation comes with trying – and testing ideas outside the comfort zones, not piling up data well inside the comfort zones." http://jlottosen.wordpress.com/2012/05/28/more-standards-are-not-the-solution/Jesper L. Ottosenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15799832907394506307noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5077189869336195827.post-59650155599336535892012-07-26T17:18:42.908-04:002012-07-26T17:18:42.908-04:00Great response Simon and thank you for pointing me...Great response Simon and thank you for pointing me towards these useful articles.<br /><br />I like the thoughts on looking at hypothesis instead if theory and you are correct context plays a part in trying to answer the question.<br /><br />one point regarding standards for interoperability testing that is ok as long as it is of user benefit and not business driven thinking open standards for cable in USJohn Stevensonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05696297547425084869noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5077189869336195827.post-26026970192589995052012-07-26T16:48:58.955-04:002012-07-26T16:48:58.955-04:00Hi Steve,
The title of the post - I'd say tes...Hi Steve,<br /><br />The title of the post - I'd say testing could be applied in both (and more) ways, so it depends who the question is addressed to. Think: is testing exploratory or scripted(?) - it depends on how it is applied and by whom and when.<br /><br />Standards - yes, they're needed. They help interoperability testing. <br /><br />The new testing standard - yes, I'm with you on that - there is no visibility into the standard (unless you are in the working group) and so it seems very strange with the process when, arguably, a (great?) deal of test thinking / writing happens outside of that working group. Hmm, what to conclude from that….<br /><br />At Let's Test Christin Wiedemann gave an interesting presentation of "the" scientific method and software testing. The slides are available on the Lets Test site, [1].<br /><br />Your fear about software being developed in a uniform way is a sign of classic Taylorist thinking - and has many typical consequences - I wrote about some of these connected with testing, [2]. This is complicated when people come in the "best practices" avenue, and is combined with cognitive fluency, such as [3].<br /><br />I'd suggest we work more with hypotheses rather than theories.<br /><br />Test thinking and thinking about testing is evolving! And that's a good thing!<br /><br />Refs<br />[1] http://lets-test.com/archive/conference-2012/lets-test-2012-recap/<br />[2] http://testers-headache.blogspot.com/2011/08/taylorism-and-testing.html<br />[3] http://testers-headache.blogspot.com/2011/11/best-practices-smoke-and-mirrors-or.htmlSimon Morleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10629592766073538811noreply@blogger.com